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So...I just dropped a rant, not particularly proud of myself, however.....

I just joined an Indie Comics group and submitted some pages, and was totally denied for aesthetic reasons... here's my response.

Well hell I didn't realize the fact I wasn't spewing out mass market DC bullshit was going to preclude me from the Indie Comics group. I guess it's time for me to regroup and start drawing from photographs, so that the cutting edge young folk who don't give a damn what the man has to say will take me seriously. God forbid I actually try to do things my way, after all it's all about the cheddar ya' here me right? Rebellion is not listening to your tax adviser, and cutting edge is drawing Spiderman with a mustache. It's getting real up in here, you done taught me. My next Indie comic will be all about Spidermans alien mustache. Thanks for schooling me.

And yeah, I'm an asshole. But seriously how are you going to have an Independent Comics group and then tell people their work isn't professional enough. I live in Austin, this is where the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers first saw print, where hippies made comics in the back of old school buses and passed them out with dime bags. Now it's a yuppie settlement, where everything good is taken away. Everything I love is being ground to shit by the all mighty dollar.

I'm sorry if my art doesn't live up to your expectations, but I'm not doing this for you. I'm doing this for ME. If you want to come along for the ride I'll guarantee it will be worth it. But I will NOT promise to suck corporate cock. I will not promise to make this the way everything else is. This is Spacedogs baby, anything can happen. If you want heroes go buy a copy of Captain America, you want beautiful easily digested art, buy Spiderman. If you want mediocre art mixed with splashes of genius and a fucking kick-ass story, stick around, cuz this shit IS going to get real, I wish I could sit you all around in a circle and tell you about the crazy i have lined up but you're just gonna have to stick around and wait for it to unfold.

I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going to New York or LA. I'm not doing Spiderman or Batman. I'm gonna be right here, I'm gonna be doing Spacedogs. I hope you stick around too. :)

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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner 5 days ago   Traditional Artist
Hey, Vince!  Thought I'd save you the fun of plowing through my scribd.com collections and link the Harding book  www.scribd.com/doc/135530509/J… .
Also have some scientific illustration in that collection (Fundamentals. . . ) for drawing botanicals in general.

Aside from that, I'm including Nicholaides "The Natural Way To Draw", which is a classic for figure drawing.  This is the guy who coined the term "gesture" drawing.  www.scribd.com/doc/170302089/K…
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014   Traditional Artist
Thanks for the +Watch, Vince!
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VinceAndrews Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2014
np :)
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014   Traditional Artist
SPACEDOGS! You're singin' my song.  The dialogue is dry and punchy.  When it syncs with the the artwork it hits like a brick in the face - makes me burst out laughing. 

Some of the background drawing reminds me of the Japanese Manga, very tight and detailed (in a good way).  My major crits would be 1) show-don't tell and 2) figure drawing. 

You have a handle on "show-don't-tell", but you need to use it ruthlessly.
The figure drawing adds to the problem when it involves "talking heads" - figures just standing there  as if their only purpose serves to mark the dialogue balloons. These panels and elements need to be brainstormed out of existence and changed into something dynamic when you're breaking down the script - better solutions are possible. 

Part of the solution is how you use sequential art to say one thing in-time, but show another through-time - or vice-versa - which is how Will Eisner did it.  That is, mix digital and analog in the presentation, instead of going all digital (if you know what I mean). 

It's easier said than done and personally I've got a long way to go to do it myself, so it's not like I'm talking down to you.  I respect what you've got, here.  Got nothing finished that compares with it.  :thumbsup:
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VinceAndrews Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Very kind! Always makes my day to hear someone's enjoying the comic. As far as your critique goes, you've got some valid points. When I finished chapter 1 I took it around and asked for some pros honest opinions, and got quite the foot up the ass on some of those same points. I'm trying to improve moving into chapter 2 and feel like I'm making some real progress, it still isn't quite where I want it, but I'm moving on anyway. I've seen a bunch of people who will have the same comic drawn over and over again, and I don't want to fall into that trap. Personally I enjoy seeing an artist evolve throughout a story, and I'm hoping others feel the same way. My other reason is that so far the story is 1000+ pages and if I don't just keep moving forward it will never get done. But feel free to critique me whenever you want, I never take it personally. I'm here to get better, and always appreciate people pushing me toward that goal. :)
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Sol-Caninus Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014   Traditional Artist
Well, if a crit doesn't serve that purpose, it's either just aiming to hurt or it's not very good. 
And I'll add that what I said about Eisner no longer applies, since that whole segment on the big kahoona (the guy with the book made of the skin of four virgin slaves) shows that you are using that method.  I read that after submitting the comments.  Wish I had read it before.
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VinceAndrews Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
thanks! read the rest :) But seriously, critiques are tough. A lot of people only want to hear about what they're doing right, and I worry about discouraging those who aren't ready to take a swift kick to the balls so I tend to curb my tongue. Personally I realize I didn't go to college and have a professor beating the ugly out of me so I always try to let people know I'm willing to take the punishment if it can help me get better. :)
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LViking Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2014
come by check out the new stuff
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MetalSnail Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for adding my stuff to your collection :)
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VinceAndrews Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
sure thing. I was surprised to find I hadn't already :)
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